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So do you have any horror movies that you are willing to battle over knowing everyone else on the planet seems to hate it? Curious...

Too effin' many to count! For example:

The Strangers. This film has a good amount of supporters here, but off site it's got a shitload of haters. To me, I say it's better to have a competantly suspenseful piece than just some idiot trying to "push the envelope" without regards to anything else that might actually make a movie good.

The Saw series, particularly Saw III. First of all, I don't consider this series actual horror, but for a blanket term since you hardly ever have "mystery/thriller" franchises concerning rather horrific elements. I can understand if this series did not scare you, but it seems beyond that, detractors don't even pay attention. Yeah, it's bloody torture. But there is no "Jigsaw in space" or whatever the haters are whining that the next sequel will be, nor will there ever be a "Jigsaw in space". Saw has become like a serial story, a very good serial story at that. Not only are the sequels at least a little necessary to bring together such a plot, but the plot itself is actually a well-developed and interesting one, full of character development and thought provoking action.

Manos: The Hands of Fate. Okay, so I don't think it's a good movie, but for all the bullshit it gets, it ain't the worst movie ever. Personally, I like the elements to it, and the camerawork is nice and gritty. Quite surrealist if you watch it in the right context, unintentionally dreamlike. Yet, due to it's being shown on MST3K (which, I'll admit was at least a little good for it as it probably wouldn't have been shown otherwise), none of these elements are given a second thought beyond what the MST3K writers thought about 'em. In all honesty, many horror films on MST3K are worth defending (Squirm comes to mind).

Maniac. This is one of the best American horror films out there in my opinion, to me it's a very disturbing character study that doubles as a very disturbing slasher. This isn't "trash" or "cheese," it's a well made trip into the driven to kill, yet inwardly regretful mind of an utter madman.

Friday the 13th. Gets an absolutely shitty reputation just for it's simplicity and the trend/franchise it heped start. In it's time it was pretty damned original, and I think that freshness shines through even today; Crazy Ralph warning the kids is done in a non-tired way, the death after sex comes off as a little jarring, and even the famous jump scare is superbly timed.

Funny, The Strangers is one my favorite all-time horrors. It's in my top 5.

Nice! Glad to have a kindred spirit who sees it for excellently creepy piece it is

I thought it was brilliant and very "real." It could very well be in my top 3 of all-time.

Love The Strangers. I'm very torn between if I like Rob Zombies Halloween or if I don't like it. Like Briggs said I find the Saw and Friday The 13th franchises exrtemly hated but I love them. Also Halloween 4 and 5 seem to have a lot of hate behind them for 2 pretty good sequals.

hate to play the *obvious* card...
but a lot of people I've talked to HATE Stephen King's Carrie!

Yes the "plug it up" scene is icky (understatement mine) and the mother is religiously psychotic...
but if nothing else the karma of the PE detiontion is still worth at least an annual viewing if not for the splitsecond of happiness before the pig blood hits -
then I kind of have to sit back and wait for the flames to start.....

CarolinePar Wrote:hate to play the *obvious* card...
but a lot of people I've talked to HATE Stephen King's Carrie!

Yes the "plug it up" scene is icky (understatement mine) and the mother is religiously psychotic...
but if nothing else the karma of the PE detiontion is still worth at least an annual viewing if not for the splitsecond of happiness before the pig blood hits -
then I kind of have to sit back and wait for the flames to start.....

Which people do you talk to? Carrie's almost universally liked among horror fans, as I've seen it x_X

I am willing to battle of The Village because aside from the ending, it's a great film. Also, to put it simplistically... I am willing to battle over anything M. Night did before Lady in the Water. Everybody seems to bash Signs, Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense because of his reputation right now and that's BS.

A lot of people seem to really hate CHUD and I love it purely because of what it stands for. It's a political movie that has a commentary on homelessness and crooked politicians.

You are willing to battle over The Village? Wow. When that movie was getting ready to come out I was so psyched to see it. You have no idea. I have no idea why. I mean, I was almost Star Wars Revenge of the Sith pumped. Of course I was majorly disappointed and figured out the movie 30 min. into it. But glad to see you're willing to battle over it!

What did you figure out? That they weren't living in that era, the monsters were fake or both?

FreddysFingers Wrote:I am willing to battle of The Village because aside from the ending, it's a great film. Also, to put it simplistically... I am willing to battle over anything M. Night did before Lady in the Water. Everybody seems to bash Signs, Unbreakable and The Sixth Sense because of his reputation right now and that's BS.

I completely agree with ya on this one Freddy. Up to Lady in the Water, I thought M Night put out some good flicks. I didn't read anything about The Village before watching it and enjoyed the twist. I figured out the ending but still enjoyed the film and his approach.

You have to give it to M. Night for producing unique, original pieces. He doesn't regurgitate films from the past or put them in 3D (yet). So with creativity comes the risk of failing...but at least he makes risks instead of keeping to the gore, slash, tits, CGI, and 3D. He is a great story teller....sometimes the stories don't make great movies. So, I have high hopes his Chronicles will highlight his abilities while allowing others to produce his products.

*ducks while waiting for shoes to be thrown*

Oh fun! I liked The Village as well, although I don't think it was *great*. I didn't figure it out (but then I never figure anything out, unless it's realllly obvious - I get too caught up in storylines to think about where they're going, hee hee).

But back to the question. Hmm. Is "Drag Me to Hell" universally hated? I know a lot of people that didn't like it, but I had fun. Now that I think about it, a film has to be REALLY boring for me to hate it. I'm pretty easy to entertain. harepopcorn:

anothermasque Wrote:But back to the question. Hmm. Is "Drag Me to Hell" universally hated? I know a lot of people that didn't like it, but I had fun. Now that I think about it, a film has to be REALLY boring for me to hate it. I'm pretty easy to entertain. harepopcorn:

LMAO....
Drag Me To Hell went up my geegee because it started out all promising like it was going to be a good film. Like ordering the filet mignon and getting served ground beef WTF?! It just didn't sit with me well, but it wasn't unbearable.

NicoleMayCanaday Wrote:LMAO....
Drag Me To Hell went up my geegee because it started out all promising like it was going to be a good film. Like ordering the filet mignon and getting served ground beef WTF?! It just didn't sit with me well, but it wasn't unbearable.

I think I liked it more because it took the unlikely road at a few places. For some reason that made me laugh my ass of (despite being an animal lover). And even though I saw the ending coming, it was so quick / not drawn out - I liked that too. But I also agree it wasn't what I was expecting.

that was pretty comical lol

NicoleMayCanaday Wrote:I completely agree with ya on this one Freddy. Up to Lady in the Water, I thought M Night put out some good flicks. I didn't read anything about The Village before watching it and enjoyed the twist. I figured out the ending but still enjoyed the film and his approach.

You have to give it to M. Night for producing unique, original pieces. He doesn't regurgitate films from the past or put them in 3D (yet). So with creativity comes the risk of failing...but at least he makes risks instead of keeping to the gore, slash, tits, CGI, and 3D. He is a great story teller....sometimes the stories don't make great movies. So, I have high hopes his Chronicles will highlight his abilities while allowing others to produce his products.

*ducks while waiting for shoes to be thrown*

He WAS a great story teller and he really kept the audience on edge without showing much of anything. Why he strayed off I'll never know. However, with The Village... if the twist wasn't there, the film would have been absolutely haunting. Like you said, he focuses on tension and scares rather than gore, tits, CGI and 3D ("yet"). I just hope that he goes back to creating very moody horror flicks.

anothermasque Wrote:Oh fun! I liked The Village as well, although I don't think it was *great*. I didn't figure it out (but then I never figure anything out, unless it's realllly obvious - I get too caught up in storylines to think about where they're going, hee hee).

But back to the question. Hmm. Is "Drag Me to Hell" universally hated? I know a lot of people that didn't like it, but I had fun. Now that I think about it, a film has to be REALLY boring for me to hate it. I'm pretty easy to entertain. harepopcorn:

From my end of the world, a lot of people thought it was a fun campy movie. It was as if the Raimi Bros went back to their comical over-the-top horror signature we've come to love. It's not universally hated by a long shot. An example of a film that was universally hated was Troll 2 but even that has a huge cult following. I'd probably say that either Shark Attack 3 or Silent Night, Deadly Night Part II are universally hated but I'm sure somewhere out there somebody is jizzing their pants over them.

Not many people seem to talk about the horror Vacancy. I loved it. So many "Fuck that" moments. I love those. Hated the ending, but loved most of the rest. I stand by it.

M Night did The Last Airbender in 3D..

Throwing Stones Wrote:Not many people seem to talk about the horror Vacancy. I loved it. So many "Fuck that" moments. I love those. Hated the ending, but loved most of the rest. I stand by it.

I thought Vacancy was allright, not great but truly a good amount of intense moments.