Will there be a Saw VIII?

[Dr. Briggs]

Some people say there will be; I don't think this is true. For one thing, unlike other "final chapters," the producers of Saw actually said themselves that "3D" would be the last installment. Not only that, but nothing has been announced yet, which it usually has by this point.

From a creative standpoint, I think Saw 3D really fucked up the series storyline, probably beyond repair. If they made a Saw VIII that absolutely did not compromise for quality (addressed issues such as the rigged traps or the unseen planning of the bathroom game), it could be good, but that is far out of reach.

[mrblue]

Your right Briggs Saw 3D really fucked up a franchise that just got back on track with 6. I will say this though there better be a fucking Saw VIII or ill be pissed. I grew up on these movies like many of you grew up with Freddy and Jason, I'm not ready for it too end.

[Dr. Briggs]

What I worry about: even if there is a part VIII, how will they make it good after 3D? 3D fucked up the series more than V. In my opinion they messed up the character of Dr. Gordon, oversimplified Hoffman, ignored Fisk, killed Jill (took balls but I wonder if it was wise), and made it seem like John really had no more plans left (if Bobby's dull test was "the grand finale")... it'll be one hell of a hard fix if you ask me.

I think Darren Lynn Bousman could maybe pull a great part VIII off considering he's actually stated the ways he would do VII better, but the producers... the producers do not do well for their own series.

[mrblue]

I say the movie was fucked up when they combined the scripts for VII and VIII together. They should of said fuck it and made both even if VIII when straight to dvd. Dr Gordan taking over was too predictable, I saw no "Grand finale", Jill had it coming and Hoffman should of died. The traps were just too unreal. I would of loved Bousman to come back for a VII or even maybe for VIII and give the franchise a real ending and not some tease.

[Dr. Briggs]

Yeah, I expected a lot better from Kevin Greutert considering he was behind a lot of what made VI good. Still, I don't think he was the most at fault for the problems of 3D.

I think VII could have been OK personally, but here's the thing; a 90-minute running time killed it, and killed it dead. You cannot effectively cap off a series like this in 90 minutes or less.

If the film was 2 hours or longer, I would have liked to see Bobby's game involve 7+ trap-survivors (representing Bobby's S.U.R.V.I.V.E. method) getting a final test (which would double for his test, testing if he could help save the survivors like John did or if he really was just a phony), I would have liked to see Hoffman tested BY the survivors at the end, and I would have a had a shit-load more flashbacks to clear up plot-holes. I would personally made Lawrence in on it myself, but no suddenly becoming Jigsaw's lap-dog right after the bathroom game, and none of the supervillain BS he displayed in 3D.

[mrblue]

Yea and I'm sure the fact that he was forced to direct it didn't help. Gordons turn to the darkside could have been nice but it felt really rushed and there's still no explanation to who helped him drug Hoffman. Don't even get me started on how they own gave John less then 5 minutes of screen time that was bullshit.

[Dr. Briggs]

Yea and I'm sure the fact that he was forced to direct it didn't help. Gordons turn to the darkside could have been nice but it felt really rushed and there's still no explanation to who helped him drug Hoffman. Don't even get me started on how they own gave John less then 5 minutes of screen time that was bullshit.

That's another reason VIII would have to be very... well done to work right. We get one scene of John in 3D... so, either we get about the same amount in VIII (which would probably end up disastrous as we STILL don't know his full backstory, EG a lot of what went on behind the scenes), or they throw in a whole bunch all of a sudden. That would likely end up being kind of awkward (especially with no Jill to trigger the flashbacks), but pretty much necessary.

My guess as to Larry's helpers: Brad and Ryan from the public trap. Kind of sucks, but it's the only way they would have any relevance to the story besides "being the opening trap". Without that in mind, I'd kind of prefer Pamela Jenkins, Daniel Matthews, or Mallick from part V.

[mrblue]

What the hell is with them never explaining what happend to Daniel or Gordans family. I don't see those 2 guys helping it would be totally pointless and out of place.

[Dr. Briggs]

What the hell is with them never explaining what happend to Daniel or Gordans family. I don't see those 2 guys helping it would be totally pointless and out of place.

They were supposed to show what happened with Daniel in IV... but... I don't even know. I think they should at least effing mention Daniel.

[mrblue]

This is why Bousman needs to come back!! There is soo much story that hasn't been told yet.

[FreddysFingers]

I have complete confidence in the studio to make another Saw movie. They left the last one open for a sequel so that they could have an insurance once all their other movies tank. They are probably working on the script right now but are keeping it a secret for when the time is right. A cash cow this big won't slip away from their fingers.

[Chainsaw Brutality]

I don't think so. The series went WAY too far, and should have ended at part IV. Once Jigsaw (John) died, there was really nowhere to go with the story. The writing teams proved that by severely over-using flashbacks.

For the record, I never saw and will never see, parts 5 & 6. I actually watched 7 (3D) and wish I never did. It was total garbage, from the story all the way down to the acting.

I have complete confidence in the studio to make another Saw movie. They left the last one open for a sequel so that they could have an insurance once all their other movies tank. They are probably working on the script right now but are keeping it a secret for when the time is right. A cash cow this big won't slip away from their fingers.

Even though the story was left open, this is a long-shot at happening, imo. This franchise "was" a cash cow 5 years ago, but it became the same tired, regurgitated mess over and over again. There's not much money, if any, left to be made for these films in theaters either .... part 7 was proof of that, considering it was shot in 3D.

When "Paranormal" beat Saw VI on it's opening weekend in nearly 2,000 less theaters - that sent shockwaves through Lionsgate.

Here's the franchise's boxoffice performance:

Saw: $55,185,045 domestic/$103,096,345 worldwide
Saw II: $87,039,965 domestic/$147,748,505 worldwide
Saw III: $80,238,724 domestic/$164,874,275 worldwide
Saw IV: $63,300,095 domestic/$139,352,633 worldwide
Saw V: $56,746,769 domestic/$113,864,059 worldwide
Saw VI: $27,693,292 domestic/$68,233,629 worldwide
Saw 3D: $45,710,178 domestic/$136,150,434 worldwide

As you can see, interest peaked around parts 2 & 3 - then declined afterwards. Dropping sharply between 5 & 6. I'm sure the high 3-D ticket price accounted for half of seven's domestic take. Which, without the influx of 3D, would put the domestic total around $22.5M or so.....the worldwide would be around $68M.

[Oldman]

This franchise was good but it is all played out, It just needs to be left alone.

[Creamy Goodness]

I did like the ending to part 7, but pretty much lost interest after part 3. Seeing Cary Elwes as the new Jigsaw could be interesting, especially if he lived longer than three films. At this point though, I'm a bit more intrigued with where The Collector sequel is going to go.