I was reading an interview with Rob Zombie and they asked him about T-Rex. He said he would still like to get it done, but it's hard to make a movie anymore. He said that he remade Halloween because all of the horror movie offers he got were ALL remakes. How sad is this? I mean, I want to see some original stuff and Rob Zombie is becoming a popular name in horror. Whether you like his stuff or not, he's becoming a popular name. It seems like he can't get an original horror movie out there and he's popular... The originality in mainstream horror movies is beginning to look even more grim.
I think the biggest beef I have with the movies they are remaking is that they all still stand tall in their original forms. A Nightmare On Elm Street is still amazing to watch and there is nothing in it that needs to be updated. The blood still looks good and Freddy and his makeup still stands out as probably the best of any horror "villain". Halloween is the same. The music and score of the original is amazing. It gives you chills when Michael is stalking someone and you hear that creepy score in the background done on the piano. Michael's look doesnt need to be changed at all, and Zombie going deeper into his past, in my opinion just did not need to be done. Michael is crazy, enough said, there are tons of people who go on killing sprees and you never really get a clean cut motive as to why, he is just insane. I still havent seen the remake of Friday The 13th,The Hitcher,Amityville Horror or My Bloody Valentine, and cant say that I ever will.
Alright, so they call them "Remakes", but are they truly even remakes? Take the new Friday the 13th. It is COMPLETELY different from the original, so why not just say its a new movie. Why even call it a remake. Look at the "new" Dawn of the Dead (2004). The only things that were the same from the 78 version was A. It had zombies, B. It was in a mall and C. It had the same title.
Sure, use a name and concept, and make a movie. Get it attention and make some money. IMO, 2004s wasn't a bad movie, even though 78s Dawn is my all time fav, but I don't hate the new one because it is SUPPOSE to be as good as the original.
I agree with Loki here..
I mean don't get me wrong here, I love the classics with a passion but...
Come on we need Remakes! They brighten up the old, and make them new again!
I can watch classics over, and over, and over..
But eventually I would not only know every scene, every word, but every damn thing about the movie!.
That's why we nee Remakes!
And as for what Loki said, I agree most Remakes are like a Whole different story!
No matter how much people hated Rob Zombies:Halloween,
You gotta admit he did bring a new vision and feel to it!
Also just like the new Friday The 13th!
It was in no way near the original!
It's like a whole new Jason movie, revamped!
All this hate on Remakes is just sickening... I mean seriously...
I have to take Jersey's side over Friday's in saying some movies stand up as well today as they used to, though I can see where Friday is coming from. I agree remakes can be good, but too often they're not. Too often remakes are made without care, without good direction or music and still manage to usurp the original in the public eye.
But the thread was not originally about the quality of remakes, it was about the quantity! I really wish producers would have the guts to put out daring, well-thought-out original stuff... But too often they just try to settle for the "safe bet" of cashing in on something well-known. We need more "Strangers"... Heck I'd settle for more "Amusement" as long as it means people are willing to make more cool originals!
I see how Remakes can make a person mad.
But then again, the Originals can actually benefit from Remakes.
If someone never seen The Hills Have Eyes, for instance.
They could just have watched the Remake and said "Wow, ima go see the original now!"
I'll agree with you, Friday. I think remakes can benefit the originals. I've talked with people (ones who are not hardcore horror fans) that didn't even know that an original existed until the remake came out. It's sad, but true. I think a remake can help the original.
Thanks Bo.
But yea...
I'm a hardcore Horror fan,
but I'll admit I never knew of The Hills Have Eyes.
Until I seen the Remake.
I think Hollywood is unfortunately stuck on remakes. Then again, most great movies are not big productions. There's this one movie I read about in Rue Morgue called Sars Wars from Thailand that I'm dying to see. Last time I looked through the horror section at our local best buy I noticed Fulci's a cat in the brain, yeah it's been around for a while, but now it's easily available. Die you zombie bastards (2005) is a personal favorite and it's quite recent.
I personally do not enjoy remakes. Even Dracula, I'll only watch the 1931 version. Every time I've decided to actually watch a remake, I was utterly disappointed. Dawn of the Dead might have been the one exception, I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it either. It just feels like Hollywood is feeding horror fans reheated leftovers. Now if they remade Nekromantik, I might actually want to see it, but it's not like mainstream hollywood would ever go there.
Something fresh and new would be nice, but I doubt it'll happen anytime soon, those remakes apparently are making money or they wouldn't keep making them.
Hollywood has rarely ever made good horror films anyway. All these remakes were mostly small, independent fare that studios acquired later. Real horror comes from outside the studio...haha...that sounds weird to say....
That's true, I just wish more was released to theater. One of the things that bug me about remakes is that the general public doesn't always realize it's a remake. When they remade prom night, I was not a happy camper.
I get what you mean by "from outside the studio" I'm trying to think back to the last 2-3 years, what I've actually seen in theater that was worth seeing. Pan's Labyrinth was definitely one of them. I did like Rob Zombie's Halloween, even though I know people are really split on that one. I moved to Michigan about a year and a half ago and well of course there isn't as many opportunities to see good movies as there was in Montreal.
The last movies I bought on dvd were Poultrygeist, Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things and Let Sleeping Corpses Lie. Only one was a recent release.
They even remade the Dunwich Horror, now that one really bugged me. I saw it on on demand and I was like huh, why. I read a couple of reviews and decided I wouldn't even watch it, regardless of the fact I'm a huge HP lovecraft fan. The original was merely ok, and still the remake bothered me.
I used to think if I had the chance to remake anything, I'd remake some of the old creature features, but at the same time, part of their charm was the basic effects, theatrical acting etc, you would not get that with a remake. Unless they can bring Bela Lugosi back from the grave, I don't want to see another Dracula remake.
I like the remakes such as The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Friday The 13th. They remade those to where you didn't really know what was coming. Remakes such as The Omen was fuckin' horrible. I hate remakes like that.
I think alot of people "hate" on remakes for two reasons. One, it's a fad. They think it makes them look like a die hard horror fan by petitioning remakes. Well, it doesn't. It's bound to happen, and it's happened for many, many years. But people are acting like this is something new. I think it's just now beginning to get noticed. Although I will agree, remakes NOW are more common in the horror genre than any other. Number two, because they aren't the same as the original movies we all love so much. Well, most people don't want to see a shot for shot remake, unless your a Funny Games fan :reddisgust: My personal belief in remakes, is that 99% of the time, it's for the money. I mean, just about every remake that has been released theatrically (horror-wise) in the past 5 or so years, has made it's money back, and then some. In short, I think this current wave of remakes is just beginning (if you don't believe me, check IMDB). And besides, there's still plenty of original horror films being released, they just aren't being showcased at the same level as remakes, so you have to dig around and look a little bit.
I liked the F13 remake better then the original, but I am still a fan of the original.
And I agree remakes are being over done, but I could care less as long as they are worth me watching them.
Dawn of the Dead is at the top of my list, remake wise...Friday the 13th is down at the bottom, along with My Bloody Valentine.
FBrown89 Wrote:I think alot of people "hate" on remakes for two reasons. One, it's a fad. They think it makes them look like a die hard horror fan by petitioning remakes. Well, it doesn't. It's bound to happen, and it's happened for many, many years. But people are acting like this is something new. I think it's just now beginning to get noticed. Although I will agree, remakes NOW are more common in the horror genre than any other. Number two, because they aren't the same as the original movies we all love so much. Well, most people don't want to see a shot for shot remake, unless your a Funny Games fan :reddisgust: My personal belief in remakes, is that 99% of the time, it's for the money. I mean, just about every remake that has been released theatrically (horror-wise) in the past 5 or so years, has made it's money back, and then some. In short, I think this current wave of remakes is just beginning (if you don't believe me, check IMDB). And besides, there's still plenty of original horror films being released, they just aren't being showcased at the same level as remakes, so you have to dig around and look a little bit.
That's very true. I also feel that the remakes don't necessarily target the same public. Actually I'm kinda split on that one, a lot of us will see the remakes out of curiosity, then again the other half and then some is more than likely people who have not seen the original and may or may not see it after seeing the remake.
I haven't really done much digging on the subject, but I'd be curious to know more about the motivation behind some remakes, I think it just might affect the outcome. Right now, remakes are profitable, but at the same time, it seems that once they're out of theaters, they quickly end up in the 5 dollar bin at wal-mart or for 3 bucks at big lots. Last time I went to big lots, I couldn't even count how many copies of April Fool's Day were in that big dvd display.
I really don't think that most of these remakes will have any lasting popularity, not like the originals have.
demented_are_go Wrote:That's very true. I also feel that the remakes don't necessarily target the same public. Actually I'm kinda split on that one, a lot of us will see the remakes out of curiosity, then again the other half and then some is more than likely people who have not seen the original and may or may not see it after seeing the remake.
I haven't really done much digging on the subject, but I'd be curious to know more about the motivation behind some remakes, I think it just might affect the outcome. Right now, remakes are profitable, but at the same time, it seems that once they're out of theaters, they quickly end up in the 5 dollar bin at wal-mart or for 3 bucks at big lots. Last time I went to big lots, I couldn't even count how many copies of April Fool's Day were in that big dvd display.
I really don't think that most of these remakes will have any lasting popularity, not like the originals have.
Yeah, your probably right. I think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake will be around for years to come, as well as The Hills Have Eyes. My favorite, Dawn of the Dead, will stick around, only because they play the shit out of it on STARZ. As far as garbage like Prom Night, and My Bloody Valentine, I don't see them lasting. Friday the 13th (as much as it sucked) will stick around, only because of the strength of the series in a whole.
I didn't think F13 Remake sucked, but ohwell.
And yea Dawn Of The Dead was pretty good.
FBrown89 Wrote:Yeah, your probably right. I think The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake will be around for years to come, as well as The Hills Have Eyes. My favorite, Dawn of the Dead, will stick around, only because they play the shit out of it on STARZ. As far as garbage like Prom Night, and My Bloody Valentine, I don't see them lasting. Friday the 13th (as much as it sucked) will stick around, only because of the strength of the series in a whole.
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake is the most underrated remake by far. That one is on the top of my list. Unfortunately, I doubt it will be around for years to come. They're not really playing it all that much and those "hardcore" horror fans hated it. Well, most did anyways. The Hills Have Eyes is a good remake, but it looks like it has already been forgotten about as well.
I really enjoyed the Friday The 13th remake and yes, it will stick around. It deserves to, though.
Bojangles Wrote:The Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake is the most underrated remake by far. That one is on the top of my list. Unfortunately, I doubt it will be around for years to come. They're not really playing it all that much and those "hardcore" horror fans hated it. Well, most did anyways. The Hills Have Eyes is a good remake, but it looks like it has already been forgotten about as well.
I dunno, first of all I think TCM '06 wasn't very good among TCM films. As it's own movie, yes, but it didn't stack up nearly as well as the original to me. Just too cut-and-dry for my tastes in comparison.
For another thing, I do think the new Hills have Eyes will be around a long time, from what I've seen it's easily more popular and recognized than the original, even though neither is getting much attention at the moment. I also think the new TCM and Dawn of the Dead will be around a long time, they get quite a bit more airtime and chat than their originals at this moment in time... Though I myself don't think they deserve it as much as the new "Hills".