04-13-2010, 08:16 PM
justintfirefly Wrote:well that was just adorable. If you want to talk "rip off rip off rip off" "he used this first" "she used this first" you'd go all the way back to Babbage (and I'm sure you'll tell me who he ripped off).
I'll have to go ahead and admit that when I say "PC", I usually am really just referring to Windows and that isn't fair. Several of my friends also have built their own Linux machines and won't use anything else. I haven't gotten to do much with them so I don't really have a stance there.
BTW, you CAN right click on Macs...now...The magic mouse is beautiful :-)
Thank You! You have no idea how many times I've been in an argument with someone who was basically talking out of their asses about computing in general, and had no idea that ANYTHING could run ANYTHING but Windows.
The rip off part I don't actually care about. I mean Enlightenment, it comes with the Source Code so you CAN take it and make it into something else, that's not only legal, it's encouraged. So I don't personally care to much about it.
But when someone says "Well I don't like PCs because I don't like virii" it's like "WTF a PC is a Hardware Platform not an OS.... How the hell does a Platform get a virus???" lol.
I'm assuming your friends who built their machines with Linux are probably a lot like a Mac fan boy but in a different way. Once you use something that just works it's hard to not talk about it. I'm assuming they've told you to try it, or, made their desktops looks amazing and showed you.
One thing about Linux / BSD / Unix in general, is that the GUI that you use, is not only NOT required, it's a totally un-needed thing. Which means that it's in a way (SMALL way) like DOS was with Windows; You could load just DOS, and THEN load Windows when you wanted to, which means that if you crash the GUI (Which in Windows is so common it has a slang name called BSOD lol) then it doesn't matter, you just reload it and keep going.
Windows NT, 2000, XP, 2003, 7, and the rest, all have the GUI built in, and it can't be shut off, and if it does go down, so does the machine.
Mac doesn't REALLY have this issue, because it's based on Unix as well, so you can load a terminal, and use kill -9 on it and get rid of something before it takes the machine down.
Here is the cool part though:
X, which is the GUI system on Unix, Linux, and BSD, is only a BASE. Which means you can load ANY Window Manager you want! It's REALLY cool, because there is KDE and Gnome you can use which are actual Desktop systems like Windows / Mac, but, there is also Window Maker, which looks like NeXT Step, and there is FVWM, FVWM 95, and FVWM 2, all which look like old Unix stuff...
And then, there is Enlightenment.... Which is AWESOME. I'll show you a picture:
The picture is one of my machines, running Slackware Linux, and the GUI you're going to see, was running on a Celeron Processor @ 433 MHz, with 192 MBs of RAM, and an 8 MB ATI card, so, in other words, a machine SLOW as FUCK, and yet I could run this on that hardware without ANY Lag!
http://www.talkhorror.com/picture.php?al...ctureid=87
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This one is made to look like Mac OS X for people who like it, so, they make themes to make it look like that so they feel at home on it:
http://www.talkhorror.com/album.php?albu...ctureid=86
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This one is the one called Window Maker that I was talking about, my favorite band is The Misfits and this has a theme for it:
http://www.talkhorror.com/picture.php?al...ctureid=84
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Here is another of Window Maker:
http://www.talkhorror.com/album.php?albu...ctureid=85
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All of those, were the EXACT machine. Basically, when I turn a machine on, I see a log in prompt like most people would unless they have auto login set, and then, as I'm typing, I can click on a menu that asks me which Window Manager I want to use. I set the Window Manager, type in my username and password, and it loads the one I asked it to.
I can select any of almost 200 of them. they all look nice too! The following are NOT my desktops, because even though I use all of these, I haven't uploaded all of mine, so I just did a Google Images search for a few more Desktops, and, there they are! I found these on Google, so like I said, they aren't my destops, but screen shots of other people's machines:
![[Image: kde1.jpeg]](http://blogs.sun.com/moinakg/resource/screenshots/kde1.jpeg)
![[Image: kde4-1.jpg]](http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/kde4-1.jpg)
![[Image: kde4screenshot2.png]](http://www.petesodyssey.org/files/kde4screenshot2.png)
![[Image: fvwm-desktop.jpg]](http://ironphoenix.org/tril/fvwm/configs/fvwm-desktop/fvwm-desktop.jpg)
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