I just picked up Friday The 13th (2009) - Killer Cut

[Friday The 13th]

While all you say here is true (though I think you're being a little kind to the ole part 5) It doesn't address the comparison. The remake of Friday the 13th was far superior in basically every way to part 5. (and many others, but 5 is on the chopping block at the moment...

...heh, chopping block)

I agree, the Remake is FAR Superior!

[TravisLegge]

I think it's understandable considering I still have yet to see the remake XD

Fair enough.

Go rent it. It's worth it.

[Bojangles]

I have the regulay dvd, and bluray. To me, this movie is easily worth a rent.

[Friday The 13th]

I agree with ya Travis, finally someone has good taste hehe exdev:

[Daylight Yet Unseen]

i actually enjoyed this remake

tho i did not see the point of the beginning where the kids go looking for drugs, i still liked the movie. glad the asshole guy got killed off.

[FreddysFingers]

I had a lot of gripe on this movie. The one main thing that I hated was the setup. There was the amazing 'Jason's mom' prologue but then we get into the drugged out teens who we think are the main characters but then they get killed off... this is 20 minutes into the film and it serves as a second prologue. It's unnecessary.

The other thing that I thought was very unoriginal was the fact that Jason had Crystal Lake completely decked out in traps and it made the film feel like Saw and I remember reading somewhere that they should have just called him "Jigson" and get it over with.

Now, I know in the third movie of the F13 series Jason got the mask from the fat kid but in this movie it seems rather lazy and anticlimactic to how he got the mask. All he ends up doing is just rummaging around an attic for no reason and finds the mask and puts it on? Lazy writing!!

[TravisLegge]

I had a lot of gripe on this movie. The one main thing that I hated was the setup. There was the amazing 'Jason's mom' prologue but then we get into the drugged out teens who we think are the main characters but then they get killed off... this is 20 minutes into the film and it serves as a second prologue. It's unnecessary.

The other thing that I thought was very unoriginal was the fact that Jason had Crystal Lake completely decked out in traps and it made the film feel like Saw and I remember reading somewhere that they should have just called him "Jigson" and get it over with.

Now, I know in the third movie of the F13 series Jason got the mask from the fat kid but in this movie it seems rather lazy and anticlimactic to how he got the mask. All he ends up doing is just rummaging around an attic for no reason and finds the mask and puts it on? Lazy writing!!

These are probably the most valid gripes i've ever read about the remake IMHO.

But, to be fair...

They really condensed parts 1-3 into one movie for the remake. Plan being, of course, to relaunch the franchise.

As far as the booby traps go, it seemed to make sense to me. I mean he didn't have pit-o-dirty-needle deathtraps. He had the place rigged up so he knew where people were and so he could catch folks. That's what I would do if i was a mildly retarded zombie bent on revenge and had my own derelict camp full o' camping supplies at my disposal.

Wouldn't you?

[FreddysFingers]

Well, I don't think they should have condensed Parts 1-3 at all. It takes away the mysteriousness of Part 2 and the awesome unveiling of Part 3.

As for the traps. No, your right... there isn't any real Saw traps per say but he had everything decked out and then he had that whole underground tunnel of traps and weird shit and it made it seem like TCM 2. When I think of Jason, I think... hiding in a shack like a hermit and stalking people, not trapping them and torturing them.

[TravisLegge]

I totally get what you're saying about the tunnels looking kinda TCM2, Freddy's Fingers, but consider the idea of him having this whole abandoned camp at his disposal, He would mod it out a bit.

Also, He wasn't keeping and torturing anyone. He kept the one girl because she reminded him of his mom, but he wasn't torturing her. Everyone else he killed...fairly quickly.

They didn't recreate the feelings in 1-3, partially because they couldn't. That story has been told as it was told in the originals. In the remake they did condense the elements, but put a new, well thought out vision into play, and the best part is they did it without out and out retconning anything in the other movies. It was a change of presentation.

I can totally respect that it is not to your taste. As I said, the gripes you have leveled at it are some of the most valid I have heard, but i think we can all agree on one point...


...its WAY better than Jason X

[Bojangles]

I'm going to agree and say that those were some of the most valid gripes I have heard about the remake. It's better than the typical "What did the girl eat while she was captured?" haha.

[FreddysFingers]

I totally get what you're saying about the tunnels looking kinda TCM2, Freddy's Fingers, but consider the idea of him having this whole abandoned camp at his disposal, He would mod it out a bit.

You are right. He didn't really torture anybody and some of kills were pretty cool but what I think they are missing in this film was the aspect that Jason could be anywhere and that you could turn around and he'll be there. I don't think they need to make have a underground base where somebody trips a 'warning' and Jason is like "Oh, there is somebody here... I'm gonna go kill him." The took away from his overall presence at the camp.

The only thing that I really wish they would have done better was to play around with how Jason got his mask. In Part 3 he got it from that fat kid, which was fine... but the hockey mask is sort of like the crowning moment to when Jason becomes 'Jason,' and they made him rummage through some shit and just put it one. It kinda ruined the mood.

BUT, with that being said... It's not the worse remake out there. Halloween II was fairly worse!!! And yes, it's not nearly as bad as Jason X!!

[TravisLegge]

Also to be fair, there is almost nothing as bad as Jason X.

I mean seriously!

[FreddysFingers]

You are ABSOLUTELY right on that!! The whole bit where they didn't know what hockey was... c'mon.

[Dr. Briggs]

I saw the F13 remake recently and I have to agree about it being too condensed in that many things didn't have enough "weight" or care put into them... (Didn't mind Mrs. Voorhees part being small and Jason being introduced fairly early, but it was too damn rushed!)

I'll post more on that later since I'm a little pressed for time now, but mainly I just wanted to remind those who say Jason X is one of the worst movies ever about some films called Dark Fields, The Evil Woods, along with many others... XD

[TravisLegge]

I saw the F13 remake recently and I have to agree about it being too condensed in that many things didn't have enough "weight" or care put into them... (Didn't mind Mrs. Voorhees part being small and Jason being introduced fairly early, but it was too damn rushed!)

I'll post more on that later since I'm a little pressed for time now, but mainly I just wanted to remind those who say Jason X is one of the worst movies ever about some films called Dark Fields, The Evil Woods, along with many others... XD

Briggs,

I would rather be stuck to a chair wearing those eyelid things that Alex wore in a clockwork orange and forced to watch Jennifer's Body, Plan 9 from outer space, and Gigli in back-to-back rotation than ever have to sit through Jason X again.

but back to the F13 remake. I personally dug the long pre-credit sequence and thought it was a cool way to introduce the character. I'm thinking of doing something similar with my feature (as far as getting a good 10 minutes in before i show the title card.) What do you guys think of the technique, bit in this film, and in general?

[FreddysFingers]

It would be good, if it can be done right. I think, if they took the AWESOME Mrs. Voorhees scene and cut in into the scene where the kids were sitting around the campfire talking about Jason... it would have been better. That way, it makes Jason seem like an urban legend and just a scary campfire story. It will fit with the rest of the plot.

But yes, this was just a really rushed movie with a really bad script.

And Briggs, don't even bring up Dark Fields. That movie was just... not good.

[Dr. Briggs]

but back to the F13 remake. I personally dug the long pre-credit sequence and thought it was a cool way to introduce the character. I'm thinking of doing something similar with my feature (as far as getting a good 10 minutes in before i show the title card.) What do you guys think of the technique, bit in this film, and in general?

I would recommend such a sequence because I actually like the concept, I just don't like how un-subtle it was in F13. They could have made it creepy as hell, slowly building up to the reveal of the reason for Mrs. Voorhees' wrath, taking a bit longer to reveal Jason witnessed the attack, having a more quiet, subdued sort of campfire scene...

[TravisLegge]

Thanks for the input.

[Bojangles]

I loved how that happened in the F13 remake. That was one of the moments where the theater erupted. Everyone was applauding, including myself.

[Dr. Briggs]

I loved how that happened in the F13 remake. That was one of the moments where the theater erupted. Everyone was applauding, including myself.

Ehh, it seemed like a cheap way to do it to me, like they were just trying to throw the fans a bone when they could have made it a really scary scene