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Daylight Yet Unseen Wrote:um, yeah. you CAN'T eat raw meat. don't they know how bad that is for you?! when you cook meat you kill harmful bacteria and if you eat raw or undercooked meat you'll be so sick you won't be able to get up.

Well, apparently they claim they have researched the benefits of eating raw meat etc. and its supposed to be good for you contrary to beliefs out there. I dont know, because i havent researched it myself, nor do i care to do it. Personally, i think its unhealthy to eat raw meat. And i wouldnt eat raw meat of any kind, no matter if God himself said it was ok to eat(no offense towards God or anything, its just me). Its just not something i can stomach or care to try to. But i know of people who just live off of it and they are sooooo pale and sickly looking. Yikes! But yeah, if anyone out there knows about this raw meat stuff actually being good for you, then tell us a little bit about it for entertaining purposes. But im still not gonna eat it. LOL

no, raw meat is bad for you!! raw food is ok, yes. fruits, veggies, nuts. i love that stuff, i eat it daily. but meat must be COOKED!! even restuarants put warnings on menus how eating raw/undercooked meat is bad for your stomach.
i do eat meat, i love meat, but it has to be cooked!! grilled, not fried. i'm picky.

gore Wrote:The Caffeine isn't what kills you in those. If you didn't have your head up your ass calling me fat and guessing my weight and almost tripling it, you'd probably know Energy Drinks have WAY more than Caffeine in it and that site says "Death by Caffeine". Death by Caffeine means the Caffeine needed to kill you. It doesn't add in the other shit in those drinks, and it even says that ON THAT PAGE.

And again, Pot does NOT kill brain cells. It doesn't make you stupid. That's a myth that no scientist even thinks anymore.

A Vaporizer takes care of the lungs from inhaling smoke, and thinking it makes you stupid shows who really is here.

If it made you stupid and overweight, call it by it's true name; Alcohol. I can't even think of one drug that WILL make you stupid.

And What I think, I can back up. What you think, you've said everything from "Well google this go shop here and the Mayo Clinic says this"....

When you couldn't just make anyone accept that, you decided to call me 400 pounds and say I should eat shit you think is good. The 115 or 120 year old guy that was living in the Bronx, said his diet was bread fried in fat back, and 3 gallons of Thunderbird wine a week...

This proves that trying to "Generalize" Health, is not only stupid, but isn't going to work.

Something that would kill you, like, I don't know, FACTS, would possibly give me a long life. Where something that would kill me... Like Polish food, might make you healthy.


Notice how you'd not look like a moron if you'd read the warning on that Caffeine page how "The Caffeine will kill you once you get to this number but the other ingredients would much faster", or, everything else you can't prove other than saying to go to a half assed cheap store or I think I know it all?

I know a lot of people who are vegetarian, or health nuts, and they all look like shit. I've seen Healthier Heroin Addicts.

Well you are not 133 pounds, so I didn't triple your weight by calling you 400lbs, so try again. Guess that pot made you excel in math huh?

And that is ONE person, meanwhile, people eating fried food are dying everyday under age 50 from the very thing that ONE person did well on.

Yeah, I've seen some pretty healthy heroin addicts as well. Too bad most of them are thieves or live on the streets. Pretty healthy huh?


And how can you back it up? By calling me a moron? You've yet to provide any evidence whatsoever other than responses on this thread. The only thing you can back up is your car to the drive through window when you forget to ask for some extra BBQ sauce for your 40 piece nugget meal.


And LOOKING like shit, and being unhealthy are two different things. There's a difference in LOOKING good, and being healthy.


And Daylight, got a question. Where did you read that athletes consume 30,000 calories a day? I've never heard of any athlete consuming more than 5,000-7,000 calories a day, and those are weightlifters (not bodybuilders.) When I was training at my local MMA camp, we were doing circuit training, insane cardio, and moderate sparring and lifting, and I ate normal. Didn't feel a lack of energy, or cut any weight whatsoever. Most people that I know of who take in massive amounts of calories are merely for recovery purposes.

Not saying your wrong, but that number seems WAY too high.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_good_o...ng_to_diet


That's not a reputable source, but it brings up some valid points. One side for caffeine, one against it. See what you make of it. Seeing as in how you back up your evidence when all your doing is typing. Your not a doctor, your not a personal trainer, your not a dietician, so YOU are not a good source.


Link me to a good book, a good article, a good doctor. I'm not against being proven wrong, but so far, you've failed to do so Gore. All you've did is talk, and say "I can back it up" well, back it up. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I'll admit it. But I really don't see you showing me something that won't be debated by other studies or people. There is NOTHING (stressed this once) in this world that is entirely healthy for you to gorge on. NOTHING.

Which has been my point all along. Caffeine is okay, IN MODERATION.

But I'm going to leave you alone, feel free to PM me that evidence of yours when you get the chance. Not going to waste anymore time or space debating with you here, as I'd like to see what people are pissed about.

Hence the title of the thread.

Daylight Yet Unseen Wrote:no, raw meat is bad for you!! raw food is ok, yes. fruits, veggies, nuts. i love that stuff, i eat it daily. but meat must be COOKED!! even restuarants put warnings on menus how eating raw/undercooked meat is bad for your stomach.
i do eat meat, i love meat, but it has to be cooked!! grilled, not fried. i'm picky.

I eat meats to, but it has to be cooked! As far as the other goes, i dont know. But they are eating it raw. But theyre still alive after all this time, so i dont know. But im not gonna try it to find out. LOL

i backed up my claims..i posted links. again, it's all in my speech i posted, not gonna go back and do it again.
yes, caffeine is good for you, but you are NOT supposed to chug it like water. yes, i drink alot of caffeine a day, but NOT enough to make me sick. i feel just fine by the end of the day. it's like applice cider vinegar, it's good for you but you're supposed to dilute a small ammount of it in water and drink it 2-3 times a day with meals. if you drink ACV by itself, you'll get sick.

as for the 30,000 cal athelete thing, my mistake, it's actually 12,000 i saw a show on Michael Phels on VH1 and they said he eats per day.

oh and eating fried foods is bad for you. the food is fried in fat and the fat clogs your arteries. it's better to grill food than to fry it, plus it tastes better. i hate fried foods anyway, tastes gross. deep frying is even worse. whenever we cook, my dad always grills everything.

For Raw Meat; In Japan that's not only common, they eat RAW CHICKEN.... I can't imagine even WANTING that....

I watch Anthony Bourdain a lot, and when he was there I couldn't understand how he could eat raw Chicken...

For the asshole who took this from "I think this you think that" and went to "You're fat and eat fast food" first; Fuck you.

Second, I don't eat Fast Food, like, maximum, once a month, if that. I don't like it. I eat Saur Kraut a lot, and Vegetables. I also don't smoke pot much... I can count on my hands the number of times I have. I also don't drink.

So, why am I fat? Well, I said it before and you skipped it because well, I called you a moron for not reading everything I said, and part of that was that I have gained weight because I'm unable to move most days.

I have two slipped discs in my spinal cord and Nerve Damage on top of it. You work out with that injury and see if you don't gain some weight.

Heroin Addicts rob and live on the streets because of the LAW!

Find ONE statistic, EVER, where Heroin, Morphine, and Cocaine Addicts were ever an issue before drug prohibition. They don't exist period.

I offered to send you video of a special on the History Channel about this but you pussed out.

Drug laws cause more problems than ANY drug. Ever. No one would rob an old lady or child, to pay for drugs, if they weren't black market.

Go to England, or Anywhere in Europe where Narcotics are decriminalized. Hell, Amsterdam has a Govt program that hands out Heroin. Where's the crime there? You don't need to rob someone to pay mob prices for drugs when they're legal.

The Mark up? 1 Dollar worth of Heroin, will sell on the street for around 2,000 dollars. Cocaine is about the same. If it was legal, and taxed 50% it would not only create jobs and a better economy, it would stop crime too.

And of course those morons who put pot heads in prison with rapists.... Don't get me started on non violent offenders. Being a Computer Hacker, I'm opinionated about that.

As for how much I weigh, I was at age 21 about 380 pounds. At Age 23, I was 230. I lost well over 100 pounds in 6 months. Without any diet pills.

My Wife hates that.... I lost literally over 100 pounds in 6 months by eating Chocolate, and not drinking Diet Pop, but moving!

I've been lifting weights for years, because I like having muscle, but I always had a beer gut. I stopped drinking so much and it went away.

Right now, I'm around 270 pounds. I get weighed every month because I have to stay at a certain weight because of my back. I can't gain weight, and haven't in a long time now.

I do have to spend some entire days in bed, but I also can bench things laying down. Just not as much.

So if you thought (Which, with that Nuggets joke you DID think) that I'm big because I eat like shit, then fuck you again.

Some links for people that I trust:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

This is Wikipedia, and though it's true that you need to watch that info....The fact that it has a lot of info AND sources already there (At the bottom) is nice. When it doubt, look at source. (I'm a Unix guy what can I say?)

Also:

http://www.erowid.org

This is probably the BEST web page ever for ANY drug. Why? Because it shows, without censoring, BOTH sides to everything. You'll see people on there who have ODd on Caffeine, and everything else talk about the dangers, and then in the "Glowing Experiences" area, people who found something that's helped them.

I'd recommend reading that page for just about anything.

I didn't even smoke pot for my first time until...I think I was 18. I didn't do it again for a long time because I don't want to pay for it. I've been stoned probably 10 times or so, and I don't regret it. I don't do it hardly ever, and the reason is mainly it affects me in a way where I can't do my Computer related Hobby. So basically, it's my way of being "drunk".

I started drinking at an early age (I'm German, I'm from Michigan, go figure) and then, I signed up for college (I saw you could get paid for hacking and computer security and wanted a degree) and two weeks before my classes were starting, I thought to myself "You know, you like to party, and you have to be responsible now. You aren't a child anymore.... Maybe do something that will get it out of your system so you won't think about it and do well"...

Basically, I got HAMMERED EVERY day of the week, for TWO weeks straight. I'd wake up, think "Man, head pounding, but I know next weekend, I'd do it again, so, do it now, get it out" and I did. Every night, I'd get drunk, and then, after about a week and a half, I couldn't anymore.

Not that my body was dying or anything, but, I simply hated hang overs, and of course, my favorite gore drunk story:

I was Drunk as fuck when this happened, and everyone I tell, laughs. And I like making people laugh, so I'll tell it:

I was starting college in a week at this point, so I got REALLY drunk... I ended up going to bed around 12 AM, and at 3 AM, I woke up and had to pee, BAD. I was STILL drunk though.

I got out of bed, and stumbled to the bathroom, which wasn't easy at all.... When I had gone to bed, I was REALLY drunk, and so, I fell asleep pretty fast. So anyway, it's now 3 AM, and I'm still drunk, and the bathroom, which, I might add, EVERYONE who uses this bathroom hates looking for the light switch...

My Mom's house is weird, the non master bathroom, .... I don't know who designed it... Probably some straight edge guy because no one else would do something like this shit... The light switch, is BEHIND the door, UNDER the Towel Rack.... Smart huh?

Anyway, I stumble into the bathroom, still trashed, half asleep... And finally pee. Now, I'd like to point out, I thought it was funny too, and at the time it scared the shit out of me:

Now, I finally peed, and basically, I must have gotten mixed up in the dark, while drunk, or something.... I mean like I said, it was dark, I was drunk, and so I must have taken a wrong turn in the bathroom, because when I went to flush.... THE SHOWER CAME ON AND HIT ME IN THE FACE!!!!

Yes.... I peed in the fucking bathtub, and then tried to flush, which turned the shower on, and hit me in the face.... Ice cold sobering water....

Still being drunk though, I stumbled back to bed and passed out again.

I woke up the next day with a hang over because I didn't drink enough water the night before (If you have a hang over, Drink Water, you'll like it, and you'll suffer less) and anyway, my Mom woke me up asking me WTF happened because there was a little bit of yellow in the tub still...

Then it hit me...I told my Mom what happened in the night and how I'd gone to bed around 12 AM and woke up around 3 AM still drunk, and that I must have taken a wrong turn in the bathroom in the dark, and when I got done going pee, I tried to flush and the shower came on and hit me in the face, and.... My Mom went from annoyed and pissed off, to LAUGHTER...

She was pretty mad about me not cleaning it, and the fact that I got that drunk, but She basically was laughing to hard to yell at me.

She told EVERYONE.... And they all basically pissed themselves laughing.

That's basically my funniest "gore drunk" story. Hope you get a chuckle. I know I still do.

Daylight Yet Unseen Wrote:i backed up my claims..i posted links. again, it's all in my speech i posted, not gonna go back and do it again.
yes, caffeine is good for you, but you are NOT supposed to chug it like water. yes, i drink alot of caffeine a day, but NOT enough to make me sick. i feel just fine by the end of the day. it's like applice cider vinegar, it's good for you but you're supposed to dilute a small ammount of it in water and drink it 2-3 times a day with meals. if you drink ACV by itself, you'll get sick.

as for the 30,000 cal athelete thing, my mistake, it's actually 12,000 i saw a show on Michael Phels on VH1 and they said he eats per day.

oh and eating fried foods is bad for you. the food is fried in fat and the fat clogs your arteries. it's better to grill food than to fry it, plus it tastes better. i hate fried foods anyway, tastes gross. deep frying is even worse. whenever we cook, my dad always grills everything.

I wasn't referring to you but I agree, fried food is horrible for you. Grilling is alot better for you. Chicken, fish, etc which can easily be seasoned with some lemon. And it's pretty damn delicious. I'm a red meat fan which also isn't the greatest thing for you in the world but gotta have my steak! And nothing beats the taste of some good charcoal on a hot summer day. I wish everyone had access to a grill, then the country would be much healthier. We'd all be out and about, grilling our asses off, literally.

Here's a good question though. Since it is summer, and we probably consume more hot dogs and hamburgers then any other country in the world. What is everyone's favorite hot dog? For me, I would say Nathan's. Hands down. I'm aware not everyone here probably eats hot dogs but I'm sure you have at some point, if so, what was your favorite? Ball park? Nathan's? Oscar Meyer? What?

And I love how all fat people have an excuse as to why they are fat. Just saying.

Yeah see, i cant imagine eating raw meats. But i know people do, and thats fine if its working for them. Im not gonna try to convince them why they shouldnt etc. As long as they respect the fact that its something i really dont care to try. I wish them well, its just not for me.

Yummy! Steak is good, i actually had me a big fat juicy steak today!

And Gore, I'm checking out your links. This is from Wikipedia. How does this even support what you were saying earlier. For example, you said the max limit of caffeine a person should have daily is 500mg, I said 300mg, and Wikipedia says, well....

An acute overdose of caffeine, usually in excess of about 300 milligrams, dependent on body weight and level of caffeine tolerance, can result in a state of central nervous system over-stimulation called caffeine intoxication (DSM-IV 305.90),[92] or colloquially the "caffeine jitters". The symptoms of caffeine intoxication are not unlike overdoses of other stimulants. It may include restlessness, nervousness, excitement, insomnia, flushing of the face, increased urination, gastrointestinal disturbance, muscle twitching, a rambling flow of thought and speech, irritability, irregular or rapid heart beat, and psychomotor agitation.


Not poking fun. Just saying, your supposed to be backing it up, but it seems like, at least in that case, your backing me up. But anyways, let's proceed.

I see two different study on humans, one resulted in increased performance on memory tasks, but the other study was the opposite. So from this article, that one is 50/50.

Women who take in 200mg or more caffeine a day while pregnant, nearly doubles the risk of miscarriage. Another study, opposes that.

Not going to go through them all. But you haven't proven anything here. The only thing you've proved is what I've said earlier. You think your right, I think I'm right. Your not backing anything up Gore, face it. For every study that praises caffeine, there's one that bashes it.

I looked through the drug page as well, and I'll admit, you have me there somewhat. With the heroin actually having some health benefits, but finding pure heroin is the problem. As even most of the hardcore drug users don't know how pure the heroin they are taking is, or what it's laced with. So that's a tough thing to derive health benefits from.

And get used to me poking fun at your weight, I don't need to know why your big, it's the No Holds Barred forum, it wouldn't be any fun to come in here and have a "clean" debate now would it? And as far as potheads being put in prison with violent offenders?

It's not like that everywhere in the country. I live in the commonwealth and the prison system here is put into categories basically, they even have prisons for specific age groups. 25 and under prisons, senior prisons, violent prisons, and so on. They each have a rep.

But, do I think that just because someone got caught smoking pot 3 times and they should have the luxury of being put in a tamer prison? No way. I think they should go through the same process as everyone else and if they end up in a bad prison, so be it. They choose to smoke, they chose to break the law, and they must be willing to suffer the consequences, just like anyone else.

I'm not against people that smoke pot, but just like people who decide to drink in public, and so on and so forth, they must be prepared to suffer the consequences. Where I'm from, it's 3 strikes and your out. And around here, I never see anyone going to prison for smoking pot, NEVER. They get a slap on the hand for that. I always see pot smokers going to prison when they are selling, or trying to sell. And selling drugs to children on the streets, or raping a child on the streets. Neither one is more forgiving in my eyes.

But yeah, about those hot doggggggggs.

Trioxin149 Wrote:I wasn't referring to you. And since Gore is still ranting and raving because he feels he MUST be right with his senseless post about non violent offenders being thrown in with violent offenders (which they should)

So you're saying a teenager who gets busted because he broke into a computer should be sitting with rapists and child abusers?

Read up on Kevin Mitnick. You'd be surprised how a Judge in a court room who knows nothing about Computers will Believe whatever they're told, things that in some cases aren't even possible...

Bernie S is another guy to look at... He was beaten by a crack head and almost died after being arrested without being read his Miranda Rights. I don't think you're thinking about the big picture there. There are more than "pot heads" in jail with these monsters.

Quote:And I love how all fat people have an excuse as to why they are fat. Just saying.

Like I said, I was huge. I didn't make excuses. But once I lost all that weight, and was all happy I didn't look like the fucking Kool Aid man, and then had to regain some for a medical reason (I said medical Reason I'll get to this in a sec) it was a little annoying.

For people who are fat because they're fat, either they should be fat and happy, or lose weight. I can't stand seeing people whine about how nothing fits and THEN.... THOSE FUCKERS get to park in a Handicap space because they're fat?

That's bullshit too. They shouldn't get to park in the spots for people who can't walk and need a wheel chair (I could get one, but refuse. I don't use Elevators either, makes me feel like an asshole when there are people who are really crippled that need it) and when I see some fucking blob at 500 pounds sitting in a handicap spot it's like "Why didn't they just say "NO" and make them park FARTHER away, they need the fucking walk"....

My Cousin is 6'5 and almost 500 pounds. The first time he said his jeans didn't fit I was like WTF of course they don't.... You're like two skittles away from HOLY SHIT....

The reason I don't get my little handicap parking thing is because... Well, I can still walk. I do have days where I can't get out of bed, but if I'm in bed I don't need to park anyway. And the days where I'm not as bad, I can walk for a good hour sometimes before I can't move anymore.

I do find it interesting how anyone in this world today would go after fat people. I don't pretend I'm not fat, I am. And I still work out. I have literally no fat on my legs. That comes from the fact that I fucked my knee up BAD a few years ago, and I had to hobble around.

The physical therapist actually complimented me on my calf muscles because, well, I'm proud of them and they're REALLY defined. My Mother in Law even went on about how great my legs are. Which is mostly from walking on my front of my feet only because I couldn't stand straight.

Try that for a few months; Basically, walk ONLY on your toes, without the bottom of your feet touching the ground. I have a gut, and a fat torso, my arms, legs, and everything else, are actually defined pretty well. I couldn't put my feet flat down when I shattered my ankle either.

I had to work on my left leg. It was getting different because of how I had to walk at the time. So I just started doing Calf work outs every day. IT took about a month for it to catch up and now I keep it up.

My forearms I don't even think twice about. I play Bass, every bass player who doesn't always use a pick has good tone.

I do have arthritis in both of my wrists and hands, because I broke them both. When I was about 4 I broke my left arm falling off a horse, and then when I was like ... Well, I was in 3rd grade, last week of school, I went flying off a swing set and it grabbed my leg and I landed on my right hand, upwards. It broke my wrist, and now, being a computer geek, I'm starting to get that arthritis REALLY bad.

Playing Bass helps I think. It stretches out my hands, and it builds up the forearms.

My biceps and Triceps I work on by themselves because Bass doesn't do much for that. My triceps are good because before screwed my back up I used to take about 200 pound dumbells and put them behind my head, laying on my back, and do push ups with them.

For Biceps, basically curls. Before I was 15 I could bench over 275 pounds 10 times but like I said, I was still fat. Arms and legs are fine, but I still had a gut.

I was getting way to big at one point. I wore size 46 Jeans. That's a few M&Ms away from what the fuck.

When I lost all that weight, I was back to 34s and 36s. That isn't fat to me. And the pictures you can see of me, I'm that size.

You said I looked 400 pounds. In reality, I was about 230 and in size 36s in those pictures.

gore Wrote:So you're saying a teenager who gets busted because he broke into a computer should be sitting with rapists and child abusers?

Read up on Kevin Mitnick. You'd be surprised how a Judge in a court room who knows nothing about Computers will Believe whatever they're told, things that in some cases aren't even possible...

Bernie S is another guy to look at... He was beaten by a crack head and almost died after being arrested without being read his Miranda Rights. I don't think you're thinking about the big picture there. There are more than "pot heads" in jail with these monsters.



Like I said, I was huge. I didn't make excuses. But once I lost all that weight, and was all happy I didn't look like the fucking Kool Aid man, and then had to regain some for a medical reason (I said medical Reason I'll get to this in a sec) it was a little annoying.

For people who are fat because they're fat, either they should be fat and happy, or lose weight. I can't stand seeing people whine about how nothing fits and THEN.... THOSE FUCKERS get to park in a Handicap space because they're fat?

That's bullshit too. They shouldn't get to park in the spots for people who can't walk and need a wheel chair (I could get one, but refuse. I don't use Elevators either, makes me feel like an asshole when there are people who are really crippled that need it) and when I see some fucking blob at 500 pounds sitting in a handicap spot it's like "Why didn't they just say "NO" and make them park FARTHER away, they need the fucking walk"....

My Cousin is 6'5 and almost 500 pounds. The first time he said his jeans didn't fit I was like WTF of course they don't.... You're like two skittles away from HOLY SHIT....

The reason I don't get my little handicap parking thing is because... Well, I can still walk. I do have days where I can't get out of bed, but if I'm in bed I don't need to park anyway. And the days where I'm not as bad, I can walk for a good hour sometimes before I can't move anymore.

I do find it interesting how anyone in this world today would go after fat people. I don't pretend I'm not fat, I am. And I still work out. I have literally no fat on my legs. That comes from the fact that I fucked my knee up BAD a few years ago, and I had to hobble around.

The physical therapist actually complimented me on my calf muscles because, well, I'm proud of them and they're REALLY defined. My Mother in Law even went on about how great my legs are. Which is mostly from walking on my front of my feet only because I couldn't stand straight.

Try that for a few months; Basically, walk ONLY on your toes, without the bottom of your feet touching the ground. I have a gut, and a fat torso, my arms, legs, and everything else, are actually defined pretty well. I couldn't put my feet flat down when I shattered my ankle either.

I had to work on my left leg. It was getting different because of how I had to walk at the time. So I just started doing Calf work outs every day. IT took about a month for it to catch up and now I keep it up.

My forearms I don't even think twice about. I play Bass, every bass player who doesn't always use a pick has good tone.

I do have arthritis in both of my wrists and hands, because I broke them both. When I was about 4 I broke my left arm falling off a horse, and then when I was like ... Well, I was in 3rd grade, last week of school, I went flying off a swing set and it grabbed my leg and I landed on my right hand, upwards. It broke my wrist, and now, being a computer geek, I'm starting to get that arthritis REALLY bad.

Playing Bass helps I think. It stretches out my hands, and it builds up the forearms.

My biceps and Triceps I work on by themselves because Bass doesn't do much for that. My triceps are good because before screwed my back up I used to take about 200 pound dumbells and put them behind my head, laying on my back, and do push ups with them.

For Biceps, basically curls. Before I was 15 I could bench over 275 pounds 10 times but like I said, I was still fat. Arms and legs are fine, but I still had a gut.

I was getting way to big at one point. I wore size 46 Jeans. That's a few M&Ms away from what the fuck.

When I lost all that weight, I was back to 34s and 36s. That isn't fat to me. And the pictures you can see of me, I'm that size.

You said I looked 400 pounds. In reality, I was about 230 and in size 36s in those pictures.

No need to flip out. I'm a big guy myself, which is why I find it fun to call others fat. I'm only a bit smaller than you actually. And I do know what it's like, I have no cartiledge in my right knee from an accident when I was younger, I have torn both my triceps for doing curls of 120lbs. I've had broken toes, fingers, a broken elbow, sun poisoning, ruptured appendix, etc.


It sucks. I'm 260 pounds but I lift weights constantly and I eat right. I have no fat on me at all really. I work out moderate weights, high reps. For example, I use 40lb dumbells, around 210lbs on bench, etc.

I try to do 3 sets of 10. And on days when I'm cycling on my pre workout supplement I try to pound out an extra set or a nice 45 min cardio session.

And I didn't even comment on the computer hackers. Unless they were hacking and stealing money or crashing businesses, I don't think they should get anything more than what someone who was trespassing would get.

Trioxin149 Wrote:And Gore, I'm checking out your links. This is from Wikipedia. How does this even support what you were saying earlier. For example, you said the max limit of caffeine a person should have daily is 500mg, I said 300mg, and Wikipedia says, well....

An acute overdose of caffeine, usually in excess of about 300 milligrams, dependent on body weight and level of caffeine tolerance, can result in a state of central nervous system over-stimulation called caffeine intoxication (DSM-IV 305.90),[92] or colloquially the "caffeine jitters". The symptoms of caffeine intoxication are not unlike overdoses of other stimulants. It may include restlessness, nervousness, excitement, insomnia, flushing of the face, increased urination, gastrointestinal disturbance, muscle twitching, a rambling flow of thought and speech, irritability, irregular or rapid heart beat, and psychomotor agitation.

You haven't read the chat box yet have you?

Quote:I looked through the drug page as well, and I'll admit, you have me there somewhat. With the heroin actually having some health benefits, but finding pure heroin is the problem. As even most of the hardcore drug users don't know how pure the heroin they are taking is, or what it's laced with. So that's a tough thing to derive health benefits from.

Yea, it's the problem that comes with prohibition. The same thing happened with Alcohol in the Prohibition years. The term Bathtub Gin comes from that time. And it's why America has Cocktails. The alcohol was low quality, you didn't know the proof, and it could have been "cut" with poison. A lot of people died. And a lot of Gangsters like Al Capone were rich and killed people in the streets fighting out who owned what area. A lot like today's gangs selling pot. Same thing different drug really.

Tylenol comes in a bottle with instructions on it, and you know it's pure and how much is there. Heroin used to as well, and Morphine still does. That's why the only time you hear of an OD is when someone does something else.

The drug Oxy Contin was on the news a lot because people ODd a lot. What they failed to mention (I think poppies.org had the full article) most of those people were crushing it up and shooting it up with needles.... They left that out on the news. Which is negligent at best.

Oxy Contin is a Time Release version of Oxy Codone. You're supposed to swallow it, and if you crush or chew it, you can OD on one pill becase you broke the time release part of it.

Quote:And as far as potheads being put in prison with violent offenders?
It's not like that everywhere in the country. I live in the commonwealth and the prison system here is put into categories basically, they even have prisons for specific age groups. 25 and under prisons, senior prisons, violent prisons, and so on. They each have a rep.

I wasn't meaning pot heads. See other post before this one. Hackers still get fucked with that. If you're good, you get a job offer, and if you turn it down, you basically get jail time. I gave names of people this kind of stuff happened to, which you can read up on. They're fairly well know.

If you have trouble finding it, I have a movie / documentary about it.

Quote:But, do I think that just because someone got caught smoking pot 3 times and they should have the luxury of being put in a tamer prison? No way. I think they should go through the same process as everyone else and if they end up in a bad prison, so be it. They choose to smoke, they chose to break the law, and they must be willing to suffer the consequences, just like anyone else.

A guy in Florida got busted for that because he was using it for pain. He's now sitting in prison on a Morphine drip. I don't think he should even be in there.

Quote:I'm not against people that smoke pot, but just like people who decide to drink in public, and so on and so forth, they must be prepared to suffer the consequences. Where I'm from, it's 3 strikes and your out. And around here, I never see anyone going to prison for smoking pot, NEVER.

In Germany there isn't even a law for public drunk stuff. As long as you aren't driving drunk they don't care. Here, you rarely see anyone in trouble for it.

Quote:They get a slap on the hand for that. I always see pot smokers going to prison when they are selling, or trying to sell. And selling drugs to children on the streets, or raping a child on the streets. Neither one is more forgiving in my eyes.

People who rape kids, or anyone else, shouldn't be in prison, they should have their nuts dipped in honey and be forced to Tea Bag Fire Ant hills.

Selling drugs to kids is.... VERY much overrated. I've not once ever seen a kid buy drugs. I'm not even kidding about that. I've known a lot of drug addicts, and a lot of pot heads, and a lot of drunks in my time, and not once have I ever seen anyone under the age of 16 be able to buy anything. And at 16, you know what you're doing at that point.

Have you ever actually seen a child BUY drugs? Most of the time I hear it brought up, it's usually the way they get laws passed; They make it seem like your 7 year old can buy pot. Yet, again, I've personally never seen it or even heard of that actually happening.

I used to have a quote from a govt study done in New York, and the study concluded they couldn't actually find anyone under a certain age who'd ever bought any drugs.

In High School, I've HEARD of people doing drugs, but seeing it happen, well, Seniors maybe. People who are almost 18. People who are charged as adults for having drugs on them, and then in the media are "Innocent Children".

If the media can call them innocent children then how come they get charged as an adult? I don't get that hypocrisy. Either admit they were adults, or charge them as children too lol.

Trioxin149 Wrote:No need to flip out. I'm a big guy myself, which is why I find it fun to call others fat. I'm only a bit smaller than you actually. And I do know what it's like, I have no cartiledge in my right knee from an accident when I was younger, I have torn both my triceps for doing curls of 120lbs. I've had broken toes, fingers, a broken elbow, sun poisoning, ruptured appendix, etc.


It sucks. I'm 260 pounds but I lift weights constantly and I eat right. I have no fat on me at all really. I work out moderate weights, high reps. For example, I use 40lb dumbells, around 210lbs on bench, etc.

I try to do 3 sets of 10. And on days when I'm cycling on my pre workout supplement I try to pound out an extra set or a nice 45 min cardio session.

And I didn't even comment on the computer hackers. Unless they were hacking and stealing money or crashing businesses, I don't think they should get anything more than what someone who was trespassing would get.

Heh, you should see some of the laws about Computing. I can't stand how they pass these things. They will take someone who can barely work Windows, and let them right laws about things they can't even comprehend.

I think if you're going to vote on shit or write laws about something, you should be required to know what the fuck it is lol.

Also, triceps at 120, were you doing proper stretching? I did that same thing. I didn't stretch at first, and I can't even count how many muscles I pulled, and things I almost damaged.

The most I ever lifted with Triceps, was 230 pounds, twice. I stretched that time, and worked up to it. I started with a 10 pound weight, and would do 50 reps every day, and then worked up to 25 pounds, and so on. Once I got over 100 pounds, I started just going for reps instead of "Well how much can I put up this time".

we have a grill in our yard. i love it, it rocks. my favorite hot dogs are the ones from Whole Foods, i mostly eat organic food.

drugs, like heroin and cocain are bad for you! legal or not. they're horrid things.

um for the exercise, i ride my bike, i do the eliptical machine, treadmill, rowing machine, and weight lifting machines because i want to build upper arm muscle.

so you guys calling a truce?

Well where I live is like a mini Detroit. Richmond, VA. And I've actually seen children buy and sell drugs down here, mainly crack. Had a 12 year old kid come up to me once and asked if I wanted to "score some smack" and when I refused he got angry and said "come on I need that bread."

And I am mainly doing toning exercises now. About to start doing the P90X workouts which are rough as hell but they are one of the few that actually work. Just need a decent set of dumbells, resistance bands, pull up bar, and yoga block. I'd also recommend a pre workout supplement such as JACK3D, it's the best on the market, and it's only 30 bucks. Be sure to cycle off after the first tub though or you'll grow immune to it or at worst, damage your organs.

And when I tore my shit doing 120, I did 5 sets of 10. Not sure what happened, but you can jack your body up with 5lbs of weights if you don't have perfect form. Crazy how fragile the human body really is. Walked like a robot for about 6-8 weeks and had plenty of Cortisone.

Trioxin and Gore sitting in a tree. K.I.S.S.I.N.G...

What pisses me off are the amounts of hoops that I have to jump through to get an interview.